Posted by: watchmancurtis | January 11, 2010

End Times Harvest of souls Challenge

Here’s an honest question for those of you out there that hold to a great worldwide revival/End Times Harvest of souls.  What verses, specifically in the New Testament show this to be so?  I’ve spent the last several weeks trying hard to find where this is coming from and all I have found so far are out of context verses from the Old Testament.   Now I’m not asking this because I have an ulterior motive.  I’m asking this because I really want to know.  I know many people who hold to this view and yet I have not heard any verses to support it.  Here are a few things I have heard in regards to it.  “God is a winner…He wouldn’t let things get worse when Christ comes back.”  “It is in the character of God for there to be an End Times Harvest.”  “If you don’t believe that the world is going to come to Jesus then you have a negative outlook.”  “Thinking that the world is going to get worse leads to a doom and gloom worldview.”  “If you think things are going to get worse you have no faith.”   These are just a few of the comments I’ve recently heard.  Yet all of them, no matter how well intentioned, are looking somewhere other than the Word for answers.  Hopefully someone can shed some light on the Biblical basis for this view.

Just this weekend I heard a very well-known minister on tv say, “It is Biblically irresponsible for us to take promises from the Bible and apply them to a future period known as the Millennium.”  This is where I think the view comes from….Postmillennialism.  This is the view that there will be no future Millennium, because either we are in the Millennium now or we are about to be.  The world will be Christianized so that Jesus can then return.  Almost every verse in regards to a great revival/end times harvest of souls is taken from verses applying to what I believe are a future millennial reign of Christ upon the earth or verses that were directly promised to Israel. 

It is my belief that many people who believe in a great revival/end times harvest are not post-millennial, yet have been unaware that the people they have listened to are.  Check for yourselves.  Be like the Bereans and search the scriptures daily to make sure that what is being taught in your pulpit and to those you listen to is true.  The Bible must be our measuring stick.  There are a lot of things that sound good and tickle our ears, but just simply aren’t true.  One verse I have seen many times is Matthew13:39, “The harvest is the end of the age.”  The problem with this verse is that the next part of the sentence tells us that the angels are the harvesters.  This is a clear picture of the rapture in my opinion.

One last thing I should mention here is that I am not looking for verses that show a revival in Israel during the Last Days.  I believe that Israel will come to know Jesus as their Messiah.  I believe there will be a great revival in the Holy Land even as the world has come against them.  I also believe that there will be a revival on some level in other parts of the world as “those who have insight instruct many” as Daniel says.  What I am looking for specifically are verses that teach that the majority of the world is going to come to Jesus and the world is going to get better as a whole.  Hopefully that will clarify things a bit.  Be blessed.

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  1. Okay, I can’t do what you ask because (1) I don’t think things are going to get better as a whole, and (2) I don’t know that a “majority” of the world will come to Christ. I rely on Romans 11:15, “For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?”

    I think this is beginning even in some measure now as the Messianic Jewish movement is taking off. Just a few verses earlier Paul says, “Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their fulfillment be!”

    I think the culmination might certainly be when all Israel is saved, but I think there will be a proportionate “revival” (for lack of a better word) as this continues to happen.

    • Peter- I do agree that not only are the Jews being regathered to Israel, but a growing number are coming to Christ as well. Having been able to get to know you, I know you are not a postmillennial guy. Your view of revival is a bit different than others looking at it from that specific lens. I am not saying that many will not come to Christ as we grow closer to the return of Christ. My main issue, as you know, is with those who teach/believe that a great awakening/revival will sweep the world and then Christ can return. I am convinced that many are being taught this and do not realize where it comes from or what it leads to. I just can’t find a Biblical basis for this teaching.

  2. Any success on this? I have the same question. The only answer I ever get is Joel 2…. I even emailed a well known revivalist and his answer was Joel 2.


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